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Kimmer: Laxatives #7

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , on April 23, 2008 by theTRUTH

This is from the end of July 2007, and Heidi is getting snippy with questions about her by now…
Member:

I am really confused w/ the conflicting info I have been reading. Have you ever talked to a doctor about the guidelines on this site? How do you feel now, on maintainence? Where is your weight at now and what about the other admins-have they kept their weight off or is it creeping back on. What foods do you eat now? How is your muscle tone and metabolism? I know alot of ? but I do not want to ruin my health (I know being fat does but I do not want to work at so hard only to ruin it more) just when i have decided to be healthy. Have you thought about a regular section that keeps updated photos of maint. people good/bad so we know what to look forward to? I have done ok on this plan, most important is I have kept my sugars down-I am diabetic- so that makes me very thankful. I do plan to talk to my doc but that is not until end of August so I wanted ‘hear’ what you have to say first. Thank you for your time-xxxxxxxxxx

Kimmer:

What conflicting info?
We eat nonfatty protein and veggies, how “unhealthy” can that be? Kimkins is a combo of Atkins & Stillman’s, both written by medical doctors. You’ll need to contact the admins for their info. My weight is 118, I eat 1400-1700 calories a day and I had a dead metabolism at 16 so I continue taking thyroid pills.
Why do you think you would ruin your health? How do you think eating more fat or carbs would make your health better? What’s dangerous is waking up tomorrow morning as a type 2 diabetic from obesity. You don’t have to be very overweight to develop diabetes.
But I’ll tell you. If you think Kimkins is the wrong diet for you, then don’t do it. Pick Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig or South Beach?

Member:

The conflicting info is how Jimmy M was so in support but this WOE but how he has now pulled that support. I am going to try and not take your-if you think this is wrong don’t do it-as if you have an attitude w/ me. I came to you in a private message because I wanted reassurance that this is a medically safe diet. That in 5 months I am not going to look back and wish I had done something different to lose the weight. I came privately because I do not want to raise any unnecessary concerns for anyone else because I have them. I am sorry if my questions came across rudely to you. I do have type 2 diabetes and have found that my sugar numbers are great on this plan but I was concerned w/ the other poss health problems that could arise, worried that lack of fiber is a problem, etc. ww-too slow, jenny craig -too expensive, south beach-seen a lot of people regain lost weight. This is why this plan is the first and only one that I have ever spent money on. I was encouraged w/ the testimonials so I joined. I guess I will just speak w/ my own doctor and let time be my answer. I again apologize if I offended you and I will not waste any more of your time. Sincerely, xxxxxxxx

Kimmer:

Hi xxxxxxxxxx,

I apologize. It was a long weekend and very busy Monday. You were only asking a question and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Jimmy is a Kimkins member and an affiliate and I cannot comment on conversations I had with him, except that his reason for changing his opinion about Kimkins were for “other” reasons. He feeds his family from the blog and sponsors. If enough anti-Kimmer people threaten to stop reading or buying stuff, what’s he going to do?

I’ll tell you what. I’m not a doctor so how about if you take the Kimkins Diet Plan page to your doctor along with the 7 Day Sample menu and ask him/her. Or, better yet — fax it to their office so they can look it over. Ask what they think. Tell them your blood sugar levels (one of my foster kids is diabetic, he calls it his BS level … kids are so funny).

Again, xxxxxxxxxx, I’m sorry if I seemed tempermental. My fault not yours.

Kimmer

Member:

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I am taking your suggestion, letting him know what I am eating, that I am taking my vitamins and see if he has any concerns. I am really happy that I am losing weight-my goal is to be as healthy as I can as fast as I can. I understand Jimmy has tough choices to make and that he has to do what is best for his family. I will continue w/ this plan as long as it is safe for me and i thank you for sharing your WOE w/ all of us. I know you are busy so you do not need to respond to this message just know I appreciate the education! Sincerely, xxxxxxxxxxx

Kimmer:

xxxxxxxxx, thanks for being so nice about it.

Here’s a thread by a member who just recently got “thumbs up” from her doctor and there’s other “my doctor said it’s OK” threads.

BUT check with your doctor. I really would fax over the 2 pages (diet page, sample diet) and write down 2-3 questions like:

1) Is this safe to do long term?
2) They say to take a Centrum vitamin each day, is that enough?
3) They said for constipation to take a 25-50% dose of laxative each day, is that OK?

See what he says. His nurse will probably call you with his reply. But your mind will be at ease and you’ll feel better. You NEVER want to do a diet if you’re unsure. Your mind is very powerful!

Hugs,
Kimmer

So, now she is fishing for Dr. approvals. Remember, at this time, the pressure was really on from the bloggers. Also, do you see that the laxatives are part of the plan now? This person wasn’t even asking about ‘potty’ issues, and yet, there it is, in black and white.

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Kimmer: Laxatives #6

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 22, 2008 by theTRUTH

Later in July 2007:

Member:

I lost the 20 pounds my first month – July 18th was my 30 days.

Is that the average, I notice that some people drop 30 pounds the first month. I do not cheat. And i really need to find a good lax, it’s been almost two weeks since a movement.
I want to lose more. I did boot camp, now I just eat the lean meat. Some times it’s fried maybe once every two weeks.
But I must say I am happy.

So back to my question, how can I speed this up and can you recommend a good laxative?
Thank You

Kimmer:

Sure, but the there’s 2 things: 1) don’t take too much 2) take the reduced dose EVERY day

You’ll want a stimulant type. The other types are ‘bulking’ and take forever, plus bloating until they work. There are softeners, they also take a long time.

Stimulants include Ex Lax, magnesium citrate (look like bright colored soda bottles) or epsom salts (tastes horrible, guaranteed you won’t over do it!)

1) Start with a regular dose of whichever type you pick (say Ex Lax), for 2 days at night.
2) Each night take a 25-50% dose at night. Your body will tell you which amount.

You don’t want to keep toxins built up in your system!

K.

Toxins? Like chemical laxatives perhaps?

Kimmer: Laxatives #5

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 21, 2008 by theTRUTH

From early July 2007, another newbie looking for answers:
Member:

Hey! Ive just joined and am confused on a couple of things, Ive looked around forums to no avail! Ill keep this brief as I’m sure your very busy!

1. Whats the rule on dairy and non meat protein foods? I’m not vegetarian but Id like some more variety as to food choices.

2. Will I become constipated during the entirety of the diet? There was a thread in the forum but it didn’t really answer that.

3. Can you have 1/2 a grapefruit a day when on K/E? I read somewhere you could but I cant find it again!

4. Do people get down to really small sizes? Like UK 6-8 (i think thats US 2-4) as I cant really tell from the success story pictures.

5. Do you lose muscle mass if you don’t exercise?

THANKS!

Kimmer:

1) You can choose from the vegetarian proteins, but you loss may slow a bit because they are a bit higher in carbs.
2) You may become constipated and I recommend a daiy 25-50% dose of laxative each day to help.
3) No grapefruit, in fact it will bring weight to a halt — not compatible with ketosis (where did you read that so I tell them?)
4) Some people look pretty small to me? Dina is a size 3, Christin is a size 4, 2 girls in bikinis look like size 2-6?
5) You will keep the muscle mass you need, many people don’t exercise. You naturally lose muscle as you lose weight because you don’t need as much muscle to carry 125 lbs as 250 lbs.

You can read more info in The First 2 Weeks above, too!

K.

Member:

Hello again! quick question about the laxatives,
i thought that its bad to take them constantly because your bowel starts to rely on them…are there any safe types of laxative which don’t do this? And would that be throughout the entire programme, even maintenance?
Thanks again!

Kimmer:

Recent studies show that our bowels DO NOT rely on laxatives, but we’re talking about a reduced dose no matter way. Much more dangerous to have garbage lying in the bowel where it begins to be reabsorbed and ferments.

You can use fiber laxatives but they take a long time and cause temporary weight gain due to water absorption.
You can use bulking laxatives that act the same way.
You can use stimulant laxatives that force bowel action.

Recent studies? What recent studies?
Oh, Yeah, those Russian brides in the bikinis sure did look thin… They probably took handfuls of laxatives…

Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #3

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

This exchange is from May 2007. Identity of the member is protected, and the added links and emphasis are ours. The rest is Heidi in her own words, again recommending daily laxative use and encouraging “rabbit” starvation.

Member:

Hi
– I started Kimkins 1-1/2 weeks ago. The first week I lost 9 pounds!! This week, although I believe I’m doing much the same things as the first week, I have gained one pound back and stalled. I never tried the Atkins, so I don’t have a low-carb background. I think I need help with the Kimkins Guidelines.
– Why are cooked veggies not allowed as much as raw? or why can we have so little? If I don’t have raw with my dinner, can I have 2 jello-cups of cooked?
– “Up to 20 carbs” – is this a matter of counting every single carb? Meaning, do I need to get a carb counting book?
– Why are some veggies not listed on your food list? Not that I’m eating them; I’ve been avoiding carrots and corn – just need to know.
– When you say “as much lean protein as desired”, do you mean it? or do you mean “up to 8 oz of lean steak” or whatever?
– I’ve been using Pam in my fry pan – is this the “enough fat to make your menu work”? I cut all the fat off the meats, seldom if ever use butter, no oil.
– Another indelicate problem is constipation. I’ve been drinking an herbal tea (when I remember…) at night to alleviate that problem. But it just manages to give me diarrhea, not a “bowel movement”. Could the problem hamper my progress?

I will cut my portions in half today, if that helps. I didn’t think my portions were too large. I just need to get off this plateau before discouragement sets in. One nice thing is I haven’t been hungry the whole time – although I do miss the foods I used to eat.
Can you advise?? Thanks loads.

Kimmer:

Hi!

OK, here’s some quick answers:

1) The cooked veggies have much more carbs than the salad veggies, this is why they’re limited. A “jello” cup is loosely measured, not packed down. For most cooked veggies it would be a heaping cereal spoon.

2) Corn and potatoes are extremely high in carbs and avoided until maintenance.

3) The best carb counter would be to try http://www.fitday.com which is a free account and lists carbs and protein in nearly every food. Check the carbs in 1 cup of lettuce compared to 1 cup of corn!

4) You count all carbs including coffee, tea, veggies, sausage, condiments and remain under 20. Under 10 is even better!

5) Eat all you care to of lean protein means LEAN protein. All steak is at least 30% fat so it’s not a lean protein. Enjoy it 1-2X a week max, picking 4-5 raw ounce portions.

Be on the lookout for reduced appetite and don’t be afraid to eat less. This is a psychological barrier for many people. If you’re not hungry, by all means cut portions in half. The RDA for protein is only 60 grams — roughly 1 chicken breast for a whole day. No need to eat extra.

For constipation I suggest using 1 regular dose of a stimulant laxative like Senakot or ExLax one day, then a 25-50% dose every day after as a reminder. You want to keep things moving.

Member:

Whoa! I just went on FitDay.com – what an eye opener! It was almost depressing – especially about the salad veggies. But I’m really glad you told me where to look. Thanks.

Kimmer:

No, not depressing! OK, is Kimkins fun & games? No. But there’s no faster way to lose — and you CAN lose super fast.

What I tell the girls is BE STRICT for a few months, and get skinny! THEN you’ll start adding back small amounts of carbs.

So great to allow a loosely packed jello cup or heaping cereal spoon of veggies while you were eating what, exactly Heidi? She was probably laughing and drinking cap’n and munching doritos while she wrote this drivel.

So we went a little link happy in there having some fun, but check them out for the full experience.

Stay tuned. In fact, you might want to subscribe, ’cause we ain’t done. We have to, as Heidi would say, “keep things moving”.

Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #2

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

Another day, another member with potential health issues, same advice from Heidi. This exchange is from April 2007. Again, identities have been hidden to protect the innocent.

Member:

Hello Kimmer how are you doing? Hopefully all is well I have a couple of questions for you that maybe you can help with (I hope I’m not bothering you every other day but I am truly co dependent on this site for now and don’t want to mess this up ).
* I was reading a post that was asking about PAM sprays and how should they count it in their fitday, which got me thinking using PAM is my new way of cooking and I never count it in my Fitday…. Does this mean that my #’s are all wrong? Should I be counting it? And if so how?
* Another question I had was I started spotting for like about 2 days had all the symptoms bloated cramping etc which I thought was the start of TOM but then on the third day it completely went away! So I’m not sure if this is due to WOE or my body changing?
* I haven’t used the bathroom in 4 days and I’m scared to use anything thats going to make me cramp. Whats your best alternative to this problem?
* And lastly not that I’m complaining but I haven’t lost anything in a few days! I havent gained and I’m still in onderland but I’m a little bummed because I had thought I would be lower by now. Heres a link to my fitday account maybe if yu have a chance you can revise it again for me?????? http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=xxxxxxx

I’m sorry to have bombarded you with so many questions.

Kimmer:

Maybe you haven’t lost because you haven’t gone potty in 4 days?

There’s softening laxatives like Milk of Magnesia capsules (they take awhile to work) or stimulant types like Ex Lax or Senakot that can cause cramping, but you can try a smaller dose? Or Smooth Move tea which is senna based and you can decide how much “tea” you want to drink (maybe half mug not full)?
See if a laxative helps you “lose”, and here’s my comments:

I would pick leafy greens for salad instead of 1 cup of cucumbers or higher carb veggies.

Check your entries: re you sure your turkey weights are correct — 1 oz? diet soda 1 oz?

Are you actually weighing the chicken or guessing? Boot Camp chicken is raw weight, not cooked. What do you do with the leftover chicken breast (most are more than 4 oz)?

Skip breadsticks, cheese, sesame seeds, lime

Are you hungry? On April 11 your protein was a little high.

Spotting can be from melting body fat releasing old birth control pill hormones.

K.

Member:

Hi Kimmer thanks once again for the timely response. Thanks also for taking a look at my fitday account. Lets see the turkey breast I buy is from healthy choice 4 slices equal 2 oz so I just eat 2 slices that equal out to 1 oz. The bread stick I didn’t have but went to mass and took the oath and didn’t know how to put that in LOL… soda I don’t count cause I figured its zero. But I don’t drink a lot of it either. The cheese I know thats a no no and since last time you checked and corrected it I didn’t have it again. The sesame seeds I just decided to venture out but they didn’t do anything for me. And the cucumber I didn’t know they were carby. My chicken I weigh it raw then prepare it with garlic pepper and save the rest in the freezer. I still haven’t gone to the bathroom but I’m going to get the mint MOM which is legal.

Kimmer:

If the MOM doesn’t help, try ExLax, but take 1/2 a chocolate square to start so you don’t have cramping (or half the regular dose, whatever it is).

you’re doing soooooooo well!

We do have more. Think we will start to notice a pattern?

Kimmer: Cut Calories and Take Laxatives

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages on April 16, 2008 by theTRUTH

Welcome to theTRUTH’s new-look WordPress blog! Thought we would kick off the new blog by starting a series of revealing private messages from Heidi Diaz (talking about laxatives and cutting calories to dangerous levels) with members of the kimpound.

From our mountainous archives: a conversation from March 6th 2007:

Re: Slowing Weight Loss?

Member:

Hi, Kimmer!

I know you’ll probably forget, so I’ll run through my stats for you again. I’m 5’6″, almost 40 and trying to get down 115. My starting weight was 206. I’m now 198.2. I’ve lost 7.8 lbs my first week, along with a total of 6 inches all over. I’ve been doing 30 minutes cardio and ab work daily, and chest exercises like push-ups and bench press every other day. My keto sticks are just a hint lighter than the darkest shade.

Avg daily calories= 632
Avg daily fat= 22g
Avg daily protein= 78g
Avg daily carbs 11g
I drink 70-90 ounces of water a day.
I’ve been taking my multi-vitamins, CLA and Omega 3-6-9 capsules, too.

I think I’ve been perfect, but the scale the last few days only shows a half pound loss each morning. Any idea why my weight loss appears to be slowing down?

Thanks for your help!

Kimmer:

Can I see your Fitday? Although a .5 lb a day is 3.5 lbs a week, I know you want something faster.

Member:

Well. Hm. Print screen doesn’t work in this mini mail system so I’m typing it all out for you.

2/26 (My first official day on the plan)
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
albacore tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
6 ounces top round
vitamins
809 cal; 26g fat; 12g carb; 112g protein
My weight was 206

2/27
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
6 ounces top round
vitamins
604 cal; 20g fat; 10g carb; 77g protein
My weight was 205.4

2/28
3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
albacore tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 turkey burger
vitamins
650 cal; 25g fat; 13g carb; 74g protein
My weight was 202.4

3/1
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
regular tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 turkey burger
vitamins
652 cal; 24g fat; 13g carb; 74g protein
My weight was 200.4

3/2
3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
vitamins
482 cal; 21g fat; 11g carb; 41g protein
My weight was 200.4

3/3
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
regular tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 plain grilled chicken breast
vitamins
695 cal; 18g fat; 11g carb; 102g protein
My weight was 199.2

3/4
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 plain grilled chicken breast
vitamins
535 cal; 16g fat; 10g carb; 69g protein
My weight was 198.8

3/5
3 hard boiled eggs
1 slice turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
vitamins
446 cal; 19g fat; 11g carb; 39g protein
My weight was 198.2

3/6 (planned menu)
3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
vitamins
482 cal; 21g fat; 11g carb; 41g protein
My weight was 197.I drink between 70-90 ounces of water a day, too. Just so you know, when I go below 450 calories, I feel faint. I tried to yesterday, but I just couldn’t. Carbs are from MonaVie (8g carb per day) and eggs and the couple of teaspoons I had of Miracle Whip with the tuna. I did lose 1.2 lbs yesterday. My keto sticks were the darkest shade last night. Yay! That never happened on Atkins.

Thanks for your help!

Kimmer:

Be sure your measurements are accurate.
Light headed to me is a signal that there’s extra carbs somewhere and you’re teetering on the verge of ketosis. Once you’re “in”, then you’ll feel fine.

Here’s my suggestions:

1) Skip the MonaVie
2) Skip beef of any type — stick with chicken or fish
3) Skip the turkey bacon

Everything else looks good! If you lose 1.2 lbs that’s a REALLY good sign that your dominos are stacking back up!

Do you need help with potty (especially with the beef)?

Member:

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have not gone over 13 carbs at any point since I started because I am a carb nazi. My keto sticks have been near purple to fully purple since the third day, so I’m not slipping out of ketosis. Yes, I truly only used 1 flat teaspoon of Miracle Whip per 6 oz can of tuna. The beef I ate was leftover roast from before I started, so there won’t be any more of that from here on out.

I will try to skip the turkey bacon, but I truly cannot go below 450 calories–it makes me feel ill. On two separate occasions, I tried, both with the same result: stomach pain, pounding head and weakness to the point of having to sit down.

I can’t cut the MonaVie totally. I’ve already cut it in half and am experiencing a significant increase in joint pain and insomnia as a result. (I was taking 16g of carbs per day before I started Kimkins. That amount relieved my pain and sleep problems.)

I did buy some Smooth Move tea the other day. I can say my bowel habits have changed dramatically, from twice a day to twice in the last 4 days. Maybe that’s the problem… I bought the tea because I didn’t want the carbs in the soluble fiber I have on hand. Do you think I’m just backed up?

Thanks again!

Kimmer:

I can only give you my opinion. I don’t think your calories are as low as you think — but that’s only my opinion.

However, let’s say they are. Let’s analyze why would feel faint? There’s no reason. Except for the Mona Vie (2 oz = 8 carbs), you’re not taking in any carbs, right? Carbs are the ONLY thing that affect blood sugar (dizzyness).

If you feel dizzy and eat chicken and feel better, it’s not from the chicken. It has no carbs.

If you need 1500 calories a day, we’ll say to maintain your current weight and only eat 500 (to make my math easier), then your body takes the other 1000 calories from body fat. Again, nothing to be dizzy about. This is how gastric bypass patients lose so quickly. They have surgery, they’re ordered to stay at 500 calories (or less) and they lose 40-80 lbs a month depending on how overweight they are.

If you continue feeing dizzy I’d see a doctor. Maybe you’re diabetic and haven’t been diagnosed? We have a diabetic Kimkins member who said she was dizzy. I looked at her Fitday, nothing to cause dizziness. The problem? She was diabetic and kept taking her full dose of medicine! She didn’t need the whole dose because her carb intake was now very low.

The only other variable is the Mona Vie and you don’t want to give that up, so I’m out of ideas. Keep in mind that independent “health drinks” aren’t tested at the USDA National Lab necessarily. They can have their ingredient/nutrition label from anywhere. Maybe the carb count is wrong?

Again, if you lost 1.2 yesterday (this morning) then you might be on the way to getting the dominos restacked. Don’t “add” anything, see what your body does.

If you begin taking Smooth Move laxative tea, you need to take it every day. Otherwise you empty the bowel (scale loss) then it refills (scale gain).

The bold italics is our emphasis. There were no further PMs from this member in our archives, to anyone. We wonder if she continued to feel dizzy and did go to a doctor who told her to start eating more and run away from this woman as fast as her weakened legs could carry her?

Yes, before you ask, we sent screen shots of this to John.

Stay tuned for more in this series, and hope you like the new look blog!