Kimmer: Laxatives #4

Posted in Kimkins with tags , , , on April 19, 2008 by theTRUTH

In June 2007, the first of the Womens World newbies starts to come in and ask questions. This is the advice they get:


I’m brand new at this. My concern is not getting enough fiber in my diet. I have been eating Kashi cereal every morning to keep me going. What do you recommend? Fibercon, Metamucil, daily? Thank you.


If you’re certain you want to take fiber supplements, you should pick whichever type you like. I recommend against fiber for fastest weight loss. They work by bulking which means they forum a mass in the colon (think of a bowling ball rolling down the alley) and absorb water.

This water weight gain is disheartening to some people and they get discouraged.

Kimkins works on the basis of counting all carbs. We don’t subtract fiber. So, to do Kimkins correctly, you should count the fiber in your supplements. Our limit is 20 grams total per day from all sources.

For regularity I do recommend taking a weak dose of laxatives every day We’re not talking laxative abuse here! Not like movie stars who take handfuls. Just 1 regular dose to dose and a 25-50% dose daily after that to keep things going..

Some people are shaky about taking laxatives, but think Smooth Move senna tea is OK. I find that mildly humorous since senna tea IS a laxative!

Welcome to Kimkins!

Does her quote above imply to anyone else that if according to Heidi, if movie stars take handfuls of laxatives, and they look like, well, movie stars, then…???

Another one, later that same month.


I have been on the diet just over 2 weeks and love it. My problem is I get very constipated. I have been eating chicken, turkey, fish, salads & veggies. I have been taking fiber pills. I need help in getting and staying regular. Thanks Pearl


The fiber pills will work against you. They work by bulking and making a “mass” in the colon. Also, if you use psyllium pills, count their carbs toward your 20 daily total. I believe they are 1 carb each?

I suggest that people take a full dose of a stimulant laxative the first 2 days (like Ex Lax?) and then a 50% dose 1 per day after that. The idea is to gently keep things going, not develop a laxative habit.


You think halving the dose but taking it every day is going to keep it from being habit forming? Sick.
What happens when half starts to fail to work, then 100% fails to work, etc? Handfuls?

Notice that her replies later in June are getting shorter, probably due to the number of questions from new folks during this time frame. Normally asking questions would be a good thing, but when these are the answers you are getting, it would have been better to just follow the plan as written, instead of the plan behind the plan. Not much better, but better for sure…


Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #3

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

This exchange is from May 2007. Identity of the member is protected, and the added links and emphasis are ours. The rest is Heidi in her own words, again recommending daily laxative use and encouraging “rabbit” starvation.


– I started Kimkins 1-1/2 weeks ago. The first week I lost 9 pounds!! This week, although I believe I’m doing much the same things as the first week, I have gained one pound back and stalled. I never tried the Atkins, so I don’t have a low-carb background. I think I need help with the Kimkins Guidelines.
– Why are cooked veggies not allowed as much as raw? or why can we have so little? If I don’t have raw with my dinner, can I have 2 jello-cups of cooked?
– “Up to 20 carbs” – is this a matter of counting every single carb? Meaning, do I need to get a carb counting book?
– Why are some veggies not listed on your food list? Not that I’m eating them; I’ve been avoiding carrots and corn – just need to know.
– When you say “as much lean protein as desired”, do you mean it? or do you mean “up to 8 oz of lean steak” or whatever?
– I’ve been using Pam in my fry pan – is this the “enough fat to make your menu work”? I cut all the fat off the meats, seldom if ever use butter, no oil.
– Another indelicate problem is constipation. I’ve been drinking an herbal tea (when I remember…) at night to alleviate that problem. But it just manages to give me diarrhea, not a “bowel movement”. Could the problem hamper my progress?

I will cut my portions in half today, if that helps. I didn’t think my portions were too large. I just need to get off this plateau before discouragement sets in. One nice thing is I haven’t been hungry the whole time – although I do miss the foods I used to eat.
Can you advise?? Thanks loads.



OK, here’s some quick answers:

1) The cooked veggies have much more carbs than the salad veggies, this is why they’re limited. A “jello” cup is loosely measured, not packed down. For most cooked veggies it would be a heaping cereal spoon.

2) Corn and potatoes are extremely high in carbs and avoided until maintenance.

3) The best carb counter would be to try which is a free account and lists carbs and protein in nearly every food. Check the carbs in 1 cup of lettuce compared to 1 cup of corn!

4) You count all carbs including coffee, tea, veggies, sausage, condiments and remain under 20. Under 10 is even better!

5) Eat all you care to of lean protein means LEAN protein. All steak is at least 30% fat so it’s not a lean protein. Enjoy it 1-2X a week max, picking 4-5 raw ounce portions.

Be on the lookout for reduced appetite and don’t be afraid to eat less. This is a psychological barrier for many people. If you’re not hungry, by all means cut portions in half. The RDA for protein is only 60 grams — roughly 1 chicken breast for a whole day. No need to eat extra.

For constipation I suggest using 1 regular dose of a stimulant laxative like Senakot or ExLax one day, then a 25-50% dose every day after as a reminder. You want to keep things moving.


Whoa! I just went on – what an eye opener! It was almost depressing – especially about the salad veggies. But I’m really glad you told me where to look. Thanks.


No, not depressing! OK, is Kimkins fun & games? No. But there’s no faster way to lose — and you CAN lose super fast.

What I tell the girls is BE STRICT for a few months, and get skinny! THEN you’ll start adding back small amounts of carbs.

So great to allow a loosely packed jello cup or heaping cereal spoon of veggies while you were eating what, exactly Heidi? She was probably laughing and drinking cap’n and munching doritos while she wrote this drivel.

So we went a little link happy in there having some fun, but check them out for the full experience.

Stay tuned. In fact, you might want to subscribe, ’cause we ain’t done. We have to, as Heidi would say, “keep things moving”.

Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #2

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

Another day, another member with potential health issues, same advice from Heidi. This exchange is from April 2007. Again, identities have been hidden to protect the innocent.


Hello Kimmer how are you doing? Hopefully all is well I have a couple of questions for you that maybe you can help with (I hope I’m not bothering you every other day but I am truly co dependent on this site for now and don’t want to mess this up ).
* I was reading a post that was asking about PAM sprays and how should they count it in their fitday, which got me thinking using PAM is my new way of cooking and I never count it in my Fitday…. Does this mean that my #’s are all wrong? Should I be counting it? And if so how?
* Another question I had was I started spotting for like about 2 days had all the symptoms bloated cramping etc which I thought was the start of TOM but then on the third day it completely went away! So I’m not sure if this is due to WOE or my body changing?
* I haven’t used the bathroom in 4 days and I’m scared to use anything thats going to make me cramp. Whats your best alternative to this problem?
* And lastly not that I’m complaining but I haven’t lost anything in a few days! I havent gained and I’m still in onderland but I’m a little bummed because I had thought I would be lower by now. Heres a link to my fitday account maybe if yu have a chance you can revise it again for me??????

I’m sorry to have bombarded you with so many questions.


Maybe you haven’t lost because you haven’t gone potty in 4 days?

There’s softening laxatives like Milk of Magnesia capsules (they take awhile to work) or stimulant types like Ex Lax or Senakot that can cause cramping, but you can try a smaller dose? Or Smooth Move tea which is senna based and you can decide how much “tea” you want to drink (maybe half mug not full)?
See if a laxative helps you “lose”, and here’s my comments:

I would pick leafy greens for salad instead of 1 cup of cucumbers or higher carb veggies.

Check your entries: re you sure your turkey weights are correct — 1 oz? diet soda 1 oz?

Are you actually weighing the chicken or guessing? Boot Camp chicken is raw weight, not cooked. What do you do with the leftover chicken breast (most are more than 4 oz)?

Skip breadsticks, cheese, sesame seeds, lime

Are you hungry? On April 11 your protein was a little high.

Spotting can be from melting body fat releasing old birth control pill hormones.



Hi Kimmer thanks once again for the timely response. Thanks also for taking a look at my fitday account. Lets see the turkey breast I buy is from healthy choice 4 slices equal 2 oz so I just eat 2 slices that equal out to 1 oz. The bread stick I didn’t have but went to mass and took the oath and didn’t know how to put that in LOL… soda I don’t count cause I figured its zero. But I don’t drink a lot of it either. The cheese I know thats a no no and since last time you checked and corrected it I didn’t have it again. The sesame seeds I just decided to venture out but they didn’t do anything for me. And the cucumber I didn’t know they were carby. My chicken I weigh it raw then prepare it with garlic pepper and save the rest in the freezer. I still haven’t gone to the bathroom but I’m going to get the mint MOM which is legal.


If the MOM doesn’t help, try ExLax, but take 1/2 a chocolate square to start so you don’t have cramping (or half the regular dose, whatever it is).

you’re doing soooooooo well!

We do have more. Think we will start to notice a pattern?

Kimmer: Cut Calories and Take Laxatives

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages on April 16, 2008 by theTRUTH

Welcome to theTRUTH’s new-look WordPress blog! Thought we would kick off the new blog by starting a series of revealing private messages from Heidi Diaz (talking about laxatives and cutting calories to dangerous levels) with members of the kimpound.

From our mountainous archives: a conversation from March 6th 2007:

Re: Slowing Weight Loss?


Hi, Kimmer!

I know you’ll probably forget, so I’ll run through my stats for you again. I’m 5’6″, almost 40 and trying to get down 115. My starting weight was 206. I’m now 198.2. I’ve lost 7.8 lbs my first week, along with a total of 6 inches all over. I’ve been doing 30 minutes cardio and ab work daily, and chest exercises like push-ups and bench press every other day. My keto sticks are just a hint lighter than the darkest shade.

Avg daily calories= 632
Avg daily fat= 22g
Avg daily protein= 78g
Avg daily carbs 11g
I drink 70-90 ounces of water a day.
I’ve been taking my multi-vitamins, CLA and Omega 3-6-9 capsules, too.

I think I’ve been perfect, but the scale the last few days only shows a half pound loss each morning. Any idea why my weight loss appears to be slowing down?

Thanks for your help!


Can I see your Fitday? Although a .5 lb a day is 3.5 lbs a week, I know you want something faster.


Well. Hm. Print screen doesn’t work in this mini mail system so I’m typing it all out for you.

2/26 (My first official day on the plan)
2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
albacore tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
6 ounces top round
809 cal; 26g fat; 12g carb; 112g protein
My weight was 206

2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
6 ounces top round
604 cal; 20g fat; 10g carb; 77g protein
My weight was 205.4

3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
albacore tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 turkey burger
650 cal; 25g fat; 13g carb; 74g protein
My weight was 202.4

2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
regular tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 turkey burger
652 cal; 24g fat; 13g carb; 74g protein
My weight was 200.4

3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
482 cal; 21g fat; 11g carb; 41g protein
My weight was 200.4

2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
regular tuna 5 ounces with 1 teaspoon miracle whip light
1 plain grilled chicken breast
695 cal; 18g fat; 11g carb; 102g protein
My weight was 199.2

2 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 plain grilled chicken breast
535 cal; 16g fat; 10g carb; 69g protein
My weight was 198.8

3 hard boiled eggs
1 slice turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
446 cal; 19g fat; 11g carb; 39g protein
My weight was 198.2

3/6 (planned menu)
3 hard boiled eggs
2 slices turkey bacon
1 turkey burger
482 cal; 21g fat; 11g carb; 41g protein
My weight was 197.I drink between 70-90 ounces of water a day, too. Just so you know, when I go below 450 calories, I feel faint. I tried to yesterday, but I just couldn’t. Carbs are from MonaVie (8g carb per day) and eggs and the couple of teaspoons I had of Miracle Whip with the tuna. I did lose 1.2 lbs yesterday. My keto sticks were the darkest shade last night. Yay! That never happened on Atkins.

Thanks for your help!


Be sure your measurements are accurate.
Light headed to me is a signal that there’s extra carbs somewhere and you’re teetering on the verge of ketosis. Once you’re “in”, then you’ll feel fine.

Here’s my suggestions:

1) Skip the MonaVie
2) Skip beef of any type — stick with chicken or fish
3) Skip the turkey bacon

Everything else looks good! If you lose 1.2 lbs that’s a REALLY good sign that your dominos are stacking back up!

Do you need help with potty (especially with the beef)?


I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have not gone over 13 carbs at any point since I started because I am a carb nazi. My keto sticks have been near purple to fully purple since the third day, so I’m not slipping out of ketosis. Yes, I truly only used 1 flat teaspoon of Miracle Whip per 6 oz can of tuna. The beef I ate was leftover roast from before I started, so there won’t be any more of that from here on out.

I will try to skip the turkey bacon, but I truly cannot go below 450 calories–it makes me feel ill. On two separate occasions, I tried, both with the same result: stomach pain, pounding head and weakness to the point of having to sit down.

I can’t cut the MonaVie totally. I’ve already cut it in half and am experiencing a significant increase in joint pain and insomnia as a result. (I was taking 16g of carbs per day before I started Kimkins. That amount relieved my pain and sleep problems.)

I did buy some Smooth Move tea the other day. I can say my bowel habits have changed dramatically, from twice a day to twice in the last 4 days. Maybe that’s the problem… I bought the tea because I didn’t want the carbs in the soluble fiber I have on hand. Do you think I’m just backed up?

Thanks again!


I can only give you my opinion. I don’t think your calories are as low as you think — but that’s only my opinion.

However, let’s say they are. Let’s analyze why would feel faint? There’s no reason. Except for the Mona Vie (2 oz = 8 carbs), you’re not taking in any carbs, right? Carbs are the ONLY thing that affect blood sugar (dizzyness).

If you feel dizzy and eat chicken and feel better, it’s not from the chicken. It has no carbs.

If you need 1500 calories a day, we’ll say to maintain your current weight and only eat 500 (to make my math easier), then your body takes the other 1000 calories from body fat. Again, nothing to be dizzy about. This is how gastric bypass patients lose so quickly. They have surgery, they’re ordered to stay at 500 calories (or less) and they lose 40-80 lbs a month depending on how overweight they are.

If you continue feeing dizzy I’d see a doctor. Maybe you’re diabetic and haven’t been diagnosed? We have a diabetic Kimkins member who said she was dizzy. I looked at her Fitday, nothing to cause dizziness. The problem? She was diabetic and kept taking her full dose of medicine! She didn’t need the whole dose because her carb intake was now very low.

The only other variable is the Mona Vie and you don’t want to give that up, so I’m out of ideas. Keep in mind that independent “health drinks” aren’t tested at the USDA National Lab necessarily. They can have their ingredient/nutrition label from anywhere. Maybe the carb count is wrong?

Again, if you lost 1.2 yesterday (this morning) then you might be on the way to getting the dominos restacked. Don’t “add” anything, see what your body does.

If you begin taking Smooth Move laxative tea, you need to take it every day. Otherwise you empty the bowel (scale loss) then it refills (scale gain).

The bold italics is our emphasis. There were no further PMs from this member in our archives, to anyone. We wonder if she continued to feel dizzy and did go to a doctor who told her to start eating more and run away from this woman as fast as her weakened legs could carry her?

Yes, before you ask, we sent screen shots of this to John.

Stay tuned for more in this series, and hope you like the new look blog!

A Little Night Music

Posted in Kimkins on April 15, 2008 by theTRUTH

In honor of some of my fellow bloggers removing music from their home pages, I thought I would add some to fill the void, for all the ducks to dance to.

Be Like a Duck (Listen)

Calm on the surface, but always paddling like the dickens underneath.

To blog or not to blog?

Posted in Kimkins on April 6, 2008 by theTRUTH

That is the question.

Any bloggers on hiatus (Dangers, Exposed, etc.) wondering if it is worth it to return to frequent posting had better read this first.

NY Times: In Web World of 24/7 Stress, Writers Blog Till They Drop

Let this also serve as a warning to folks like Yucky, Medusa and others who blog regularly. Your health is at risk, and it has nothing to do with your deadly low carb diet. Please, for your own good, reconsider the frequency of your posts.

And you wonder why we had to think about coming back…

The preceding post is entirely tongue-in-cheek and should not be regarded as a serious admonition against free speech. I’m theTRUTH and I approved this message.

Time to Update our Blog Roll

Posted in Kimkins on April 1, 2008 by theTRUTH

Fellow Heidi Fighters,

If you don’t see your blog in our blog roll, let us know and we’ll get it included.
Now that we are back, please consider adding us as to yours as well.