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Kimmer: Laxatives #7

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , on April 23, 2008 by theTRUTH

This is from the end of July 2007, and Heidi is getting snippy with questions about her by now…

I am really confused w/ the conflicting info I have been reading. Have you ever talked to a doctor about the guidelines on this site? How do you feel now, on maintainence? Where is your weight at now and what about the other admins-have they kept their weight off or is it creeping back on. What foods do you eat now? How is your muscle tone and metabolism? I know alot of ? but I do not want to ruin my health (I know being fat does but I do not want to work at so hard only to ruin it more) just when i have decided to be healthy. Have you thought about a regular section that keeps updated photos of maint. people good/bad so we know what to look forward to? I have done ok on this plan, most important is I have kept my sugars down-I am diabetic- so that makes me very thankful. I do plan to talk to my doc but that is not until end of August so I wanted ‘hear’ what you have to say first. Thank you for your time-xxxxxxxxxx


What conflicting info?
We eat nonfatty protein and veggies, how “unhealthy” can that be? Kimkins is a combo of Atkins & Stillman’s, both written by medical doctors. You’ll need to contact the admins for their info. My weight is 118, I eat 1400-1700 calories a day and I had a dead metabolism at 16 so I continue taking thyroid pills.
Why do you think you would ruin your health? How do you think eating more fat or carbs would make your health better? What’s dangerous is waking up tomorrow morning as a type 2 diabetic from obesity. You don’t have to be very overweight to develop diabetes.
But I’ll tell you. If you think Kimkins is the wrong diet for you, then don’t do it. Pick Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig or South Beach?


The conflicting info is how Jimmy M was so in support but this WOE but how he has now pulled that support. I am going to try and not take your-if you think this is wrong don’t do it-as if you have an attitude w/ me. I came to you in a private message because I wanted reassurance that this is a medically safe diet. That in 5 months I am not going to look back and wish I had done something different to lose the weight. I came privately because I do not want to raise any unnecessary concerns for anyone else because I have them. I am sorry if my questions came across rudely to you. I do have type 2 diabetes and have found that my sugar numbers are great on this plan but I was concerned w/ the other poss health problems that could arise, worried that lack of fiber is a problem, etc. ww-too slow, jenny craig -too expensive, south beach-seen a lot of people regain lost weight. This is why this plan is the first and only one that I have ever spent money on. I was encouraged w/ the testimonials so I joined. I guess I will just speak w/ my own doctor and let time be my answer. I again apologize if I offended you and I will not waste any more of your time. Sincerely, xxxxxxxx


Hi xxxxxxxxxx,

I apologize. It was a long weekend and very busy Monday. You were only asking a question and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Jimmy is a Kimkins member and an affiliate and I cannot comment on conversations I had with him, except that his reason for changing his opinion about Kimkins were for “other” reasons. He feeds his family from the blog and sponsors. If enough anti-Kimmer people threaten to stop reading or buying stuff, what’s he going to do?

I’ll tell you what. I’m not a doctor so how about if you take the Kimkins Diet Plan page to your doctor along with the 7 Day Sample menu and ask him/her. Or, better yet — fax it to their office so they can look it over. Ask what they think. Tell them your blood sugar levels (one of my foster kids is diabetic, he calls it his BS level … kids are so funny).

Again, xxxxxxxxxx, I’m sorry if I seemed tempermental. My fault not yours.



Thank you for taking the time to respond. I am taking your suggestion, letting him know what I am eating, that I am taking my vitamins and see if he has any concerns. I am really happy that I am losing weight-my goal is to be as healthy as I can as fast as I can. I understand Jimmy has tough choices to make and that he has to do what is best for his family. I will continue w/ this plan as long as it is safe for me and i thank you for sharing your WOE w/ all of us. I know you are busy so you do not need to respond to this message just know I appreciate the education! Sincerely, xxxxxxxxxxx


xxxxxxxxx, thanks for being so nice about it.

Here’s a thread by a member who just recently got “thumbs up” from her doctor and there’s other “my doctor said it’s OK” threads.

BUT check with your doctor. I really would fax over the 2 pages (diet page, sample diet) and write down 2-3 questions like:

1) Is this safe to do long term?
2) They say to take a Centrum vitamin each day, is that enough?
3) They said for constipation to take a 25-50% dose of laxative each day, is that OK?

See what he says. His nurse will probably call you with his reply. But your mind will be at ease and you’ll feel better. You NEVER want to do a diet if you’re unsure. Your mind is very powerful!


So, now she is fishing for Dr. approvals. Remember, at this time, the pressure was really on from the bloggers. Also, do you see that the laxatives are part of the plan now? This person wasn’t even asking about ‘potty’ issues, and yet, there it is, in black and white.


Kimmer: Laxatives #6

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 22, 2008 by theTRUTH

Later in July 2007:


I lost the 20 pounds my first month – July 18th was my 30 days.

Is that the average, I notice that some people drop 30 pounds the first month. I do not cheat. And i really need to find a good lax, it’s been almost two weeks since a movement.
I want to lose more. I did boot camp, now I just eat the lean meat. Some times it’s fried maybe once every two weeks.
But I must say I am happy.

So back to my question, how can I speed this up and can you recommend a good laxative?
Thank You


Sure, but the there’s 2 things: 1) don’t take too much 2) take the reduced dose EVERY day

You’ll want a stimulant type. The other types are ‘bulking’ and take forever, plus bloating until they work. There are softeners, they also take a long time.

Stimulants include Ex Lax, magnesium citrate (look like bright colored soda bottles) or epsom salts (tastes horrible, guaranteed you won’t over do it!)

1) Start with a regular dose of whichever type you pick (say Ex Lax), for 2 days at night.
2) Each night take a 25-50% dose at night. Your body will tell you which amount.

You don’t want to keep toxins built up in your system!


Toxins? Like chemical laxatives perhaps?

Kimmer: Laxatives #5

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 21, 2008 by theTRUTH

From early July 2007, another newbie looking for answers:

Hey! Ive just joined and am confused on a couple of things, Ive looked around forums to no avail! Ill keep this brief as I’m sure your very busy!

1. Whats the rule on dairy and non meat protein foods? I’m not vegetarian but Id like some more variety as to food choices.

2. Will I become constipated during the entirety of the diet? There was a thread in the forum but it didn’t really answer that.

3. Can you have 1/2 a grapefruit a day when on K/E? I read somewhere you could but I cant find it again!

4. Do people get down to really small sizes? Like UK 6-8 (i think thats US 2-4) as I cant really tell from the success story pictures.

5. Do you lose muscle mass if you don’t exercise?



1) You can choose from the vegetarian proteins, but you loss may slow a bit because they are a bit higher in carbs.
2) You may become constipated and I recommend a daiy 25-50% dose of laxative each day to help.
3) No grapefruit, in fact it will bring weight to a halt — not compatible with ketosis (where did you read that so I tell them?)
4) Some people look pretty small to me? Dina is a size 3, Christin is a size 4, 2 girls in bikinis look like size 2-6?
5) You will keep the muscle mass you need, many people don’t exercise. You naturally lose muscle as you lose weight because you don’t need as much muscle to carry 125 lbs as 250 lbs.

You can read more info in The First 2 Weeks above, too!



Hello again! quick question about the laxatives,
i thought that its bad to take them constantly because your bowel starts to rely on them…are there any safe types of laxative which don’t do this? And would that be throughout the entire programme, even maintenance?
Thanks again!


Recent studies show that our bowels DO NOT rely on laxatives, but we’re talking about a reduced dose no matter way. Much more dangerous to have garbage lying in the bowel where it begins to be reabsorbed and ferments.

You can use fiber laxatives but they take a long time and cause temporary weight gain due to water absorption.
You can use bulking laxatives that act the same way.
You can use stimulant laxatives that force bowel action.

Recent studies? What recent studies?
Oh, Yeah, those Russian brides in the bikinis sure did look thin… They probably took handfuls of laxatives…

Kimmer: Laxatives #4

Posted in Kimkins with tags , , , on April 19, 2008 by theTRUTH

In June 2007, the first of the Womens World newbies starts to come in and ask questions. This is the advice they get:


I’m brand new at this. My concern is not getting enough fiber in my diet. I have been eating Kashi cereal every morning to keep me going. What do you recommend? Fibercon, Metamucil, daily? Thank you.


If you’re certain you want to take fiber supplements, you should pick whichever type you like. I recommend against fiber for fastest weight loss. They work by bulking which means they forum a mass in the colon (think of a bowling ball rolling down the alley) and absorb water.

This water weight gain is disheartening to some people and they get discouraged.

Kimkins works on the basis of counting all carbs. We don’t subtract fiber. So, to do Kimkins correctly, you should count the fiber in your supplements. Our limit is 20 grams total per day from all sources.

For regularity I do recommend taking a weak dose of laxatives every day We’re not talking laxative abuse here! Not like movie stars who take handfuls. Just 1 regular dose to dose and a 25-50% dose daily after that to keep things going..

Some people are shaky about taking laxatives, but think Smooth Move senna tea is OK. I find that mildly humorous since senna tea IS a laxative!

Welcome to Kimkins!

Does her quote above imply to anyone else that if according to Heidi, if movie stars take handfuls of laxatives, and they look like, well, movie stars, then…???

Another one, later that same month.


I have been on the diet just over 2 weeks and love it. My problem is I get very constipated. I have been eating chicken, turkey, fish, salads & veggies. I have been taking fiber pills. I need help in getting and staying regular. Thanks Pearl


The fiber pills will work against you. They work by bulking and making a “mass” in the colon. Also, if you use psyllium pills, count their carbs toward your 20 daily total. I believe they are 1 carb each?

I suggest that people take a full dose of a stimulant laxative the first 2 days (like Ex Lax?) and then a 50% dose 1 per day after that. The idea is to gently keep things going, not develop a laxative habit.


You think halving the dose but taking it every day is going to keep it from being habit forming? Sick.
What happens when half starts to fail to work, then 100% fails to work, etc? Handfuls?

Notice that her replies later in June are getting shorter, probably due to the number of questions from new folks during this time frame. Normally asking questions would be a good thing, but when these are the answers you are getting, it would have been better to just follow the plan as written, instead of the plan behind the plan. Not much better, but better for sure…

Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #3

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

This exchange is from May 2007. Identity of the member is protected, and the added links and emphasis are ours. The rest is Heidi in her own words, again recommending daily laxative use and encouraging “rabbit” starvation.


– I started Kimkins 1-1/2 weeks ago. The first week I lost 9 pounds!! This week, although I believe I’m doing much the same things as the first week, I have gained one pound back and stalled. I never tried the Atkins, so I don’t have a low-carb background. I think I need help with the Kimkins Guidelines.
– Why are cooked veggies not allowed as much as raw? or why can we have so little? If I don’t have raw with my dinner, can I have 2 jello-cups of cooked?
– “Up to 20 carbs” – is this a matter of counting every single carb? Meaning, do I need to get a carb counting book?
– Why are some veggies not listed on your food list? Not that I’m eating them; I’ve been avoiding carrots and corn – just need to know.
– When you say “as much lean protein as desired”, do you mean it? or do you mean “up to 8 oz of lean steak” or whatever?
– I’ve been using Pam in my fry pan – is this the “enough fat to make your menu work”? I cut all the fat off the meats, seldom if ever use butter, no oil.
– Another indelicate problem is constipation. I’ve been drinking an herbal tea (when I remember…) at night to alleviate that problem. But it just manages to give me diarrhea, not a “bowel movement”. Could the problem hamper my progress?

I will cut my portions in half today, if that helps. I didn’t think my portions were too large. I just need to get off this plateau before discouragement sets in. One nice thing is I haven’t been hungry the whole time – although I do miss the foods I used to eat.
Can you advise?? Thanks loads.



OK, here’s some quick answers:

1) The cooked veggies have much more carbs than the salad veggies, this is why they’re limited. A “jello” cup is loosely measured, not packed down. For most cooked veggies it would be a heaping cereal spoon.

2) Corn and potatoes are extremely high in carbs and avoided until maintenance.

3) The best carb counter would be to try which is a free account and lists carbs and protein in nearly every food. Check the carbs in 1 cup of lettuce compared to 1 cup of corn!

4) You count all carbs including coffee, tea, veggies, sausage, condiments and remain under 20. Under 10 is even better!

5) Eat all you care to of lean protein means LEAN protein. All steak is at least 30% fat so it’s not a lean protein. Enjoy it 1-2X a week max, picking 4-5 raw ounce portions.

Be on the lookout for reduced appetite and don’t be afraid to eat less. This is a psychological barrier for many people. If you’re not hungry, by all means cut portions in half. The RDA for protein is only 60 grams — roughly 1 chicken breast for a whole day. No need to eat extra.

For constipation I suggest using 1 regular dose of a stimulant laxative like Senakot or ExLax one day, then a 25-50% dose every day after as a reminder. You want to keep things moving.


Whoa! I just went on – what an eye opener! It was almost depressing – especially about the salad veggies. But I’m really glad you told me where to look. Thanks.


No, not depressing! OK, is Kimkins fun & games? No. But there’s no faster way to lose — and you CAN lose super fast.

What I tell the girls is BE STRICT for a few months, and get skinny! THEN you’ll start adding back small amounts of carbs.

So great to allow a loosely packed jello cup or heaping cereal spoon of veggies while you were eating what, exactly Heidi? She was probably laughing and drinking cap’n and munching doritos while she wrote this drivel.

So we went a little link happy in there having some fun, but check them out for the full experience.

Stay tuned. In fact, you might want to subscribe, ’cause we ain’t done. We have to, as Heidi would say, “keep things moving”.

Kimmer: Calories and Laxatives #2

Posted in Kimkins, Private Messages with tags , , on April 17, 2008 by theTRUTH

Another day, another member with potential health issues, same advice from Heidi. This exchange is from April 2007. Again, identities have been hidden to protect the innocent.


Hello Kimmer how are you doing? Hopefully all is well I have a couple of questions for you that maybe you can help with (I hope I’m not bothering you every other day but I am truly co dependent on this site for now and don’t want to mess this up ).
* I was reading a post that was asking about PAM sprays and how should they count it in their fitday, which got me thinking using PAM is my new way of cooking and I never count it in my Fitday…. Does this mean that my #’s are all wrong? Should I be counting it? And if so how?
* Another question I had was I started spotting for like about 2 days had all the symptoms bloated cramping etc which I thought was the start of TOM but then on the third day it completely went away! So I’m not sure if this is due to WOE or my body changing?
* I haven’t used the bathroom in 4 days and I’m scared to use anything thats going to make me cramp. Whats your best alternative to this problem?
* And lastly not that I’m complaining but I haven’t lost anything in a few days! I havent gained and I’m still in onderland but I’m a little bummed because I had thought I would be lower by now. Heres a link to my fitday account maybe if yu have a chance you can revise it again for me??????

I’m sorry to have bombarded you with so many questions.


Maybe you haven’t lost because you haven’t gone potty in 4 days?

There’s softening laxatives like Milk of Magnesia capsules (they take awhile to work) or stimulant types like Ex Lax or Senakot that can cause cramping, but you can try a smaller dose? Or Smooth Move tea which is senna based and you can decide how much “tea” you want to drink (maybe half mug not full)?
See if a laxative helps you “lose”, and here’s my comments:

I would pick leafy greens for salad instead of 1 cup of cucumbers or higher carb veggies.

Check your entries: re you sure your turkey weights are correct — 1 oz? diet soda 1 oz?

Are you actually weighing the chicken or guessing? Boot Camp chicken is raw weight, not cooked. What do you do with the leftover chicken breast (most are more than 4 oz)?

Skip breadsticks, cheese, sesame seeds, lime

Are you hungry? On April 11 your protein was a little high.

Spotting can be from melting body fat releasing old birth control pill hormones.



Hi Kimmer thanks once again for the timely response. Thanks also for taking a look at my fitday account. Lets see the turkey breast I buy is from healthy choice 4 slices equal 2 oz so I just eat 2 slices that equal out to 1 oz. The bread stick I didn’t have but went to mass and took the oath and didn’t know how to put that in LOL… soda I don’t count cause I figured its zero. But I don’t drink a lot of it either. The cheese I know thats a no no and since last time you checked and corrected it I didn’t have it again. The sesame seeds I just decided to venture out but they didn’t do anything for me. And the cucumber I didn’t know they were carby. My chicken I weigh it raw then prepare it with garlic pepper and save the rest in the freezer. I still haven’t gone to the bathroom but I’m going to get the mint MOM which is legal.


If the MOM doesn’t help, try ExLax, but take 1/2 a chocolate square to start so you don’t have cramping (or half the regular dose, whatever it is).

you’re doing soooooooo well!

We do have more. Think we will start to notice a pattern?